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Thursday, February 24, 2005

VIDEO: CNN reported no plane hit Pentagon

    Check out this shockwave video file of a clip from CNN coverage on the morning of 9/11. CNN reporter Jamie McIntyre says he inspected the Pentagon site and it is obvious no plane crashed there.

    Clip archived by TheWebFairy.com; from a DVD available on MaeBrussel.com. Transcript by Total911.info:

    JAMIE MCINTYRE: From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.

    The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.

    Even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happenm immediately. It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.
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.....| Posted by Total at 3:32 PM | PERMA-LINK |

      Comments:

      oooh come on alll that does not matter anymore...

      so maybey they forgot to dot the i's and cross the t's

      All journalists make less than porfessional analasys of a situation.

      Now all the advisers and experts, whom i hold in high regard mad a decision and the panel has investigated this.

      whats impomrtant is that the Iraqs had a democraticaly elected leadership and they are better off for it today.

      America and the world is a safer place for it. Its irrelevent what sort of airborn vehicle hit the pentagon.

      The imediate threat now is from Iran and possible future terrorist attacks and im a war president in war things tebd to get thrown out of perspective.

      Good night gold bless


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      darn i should be the presidential speach writer.
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      Thast what hell say and thats what 80% will gobble up and say..ooh its ok...

      Its a sad sad world

      Henny
       

      America and the world is safe because of the war in Iraq? Surely you jest. Every expert, except a handful of Americans agree that what America has done in Iraq has increased the terrorism problem

      The immediate threat to America, is Mr Bush. The immediate threat to the world, is America. But with the white house lies, and brain dead Americans without the ability to research and find they are being lied to, then we are in for one heck of a bumpy ride
       

      Antirj,
      I think you missed Henny's sarcasm ;)
      As for all this 911 stuff, anyone who makes a comment that is against the offical line is labelled a conspiracy nut.
      The evidence can be right in front of people, but if they are typical FOX/CNN viewers, they will happily absorb the lies they are told because we all know that mainstream news sources such as FOX and CNN etc.. give us unbiased truth and cutting edge investigative journalism to ensure we know what is really going on.(that was sarcasm btw ;))
      Such reports as this will surely be laughed off as a mistake by an uninformed reporter because all the facts weren't known until later. (ie. the offical load of old cobblers hadn't been invented yet)
       

      Thanks to rense.com for linking us up!
       

      It does not suprise me at all that cnn reprted this story. As a matter of fact numerous people at the site of the crash said that the saw a plane(no specification) but did not hear it.
      question? How is it that a 757 crashed there(supposedly) but no one heard it.
      Question? Why is it that they did not experience any blow back from the 4 7 foot rolls royce engines that power 757's.
      Question? How is it some nomad arab pilot can fly a 757 stright towards the ground an then at the last minute pull up and fly it a foot fo the ground into the sid e of the building.
       

      Question? How is it that a nomad arab pilot can fly a 757 10 inches above the ground at 500 miles an hour?
      Question? How is it that the eyewitness accounts speak of seeing a plane but not hearing it. note: 757's are powered by 7 foot rolls royce engines...not likely..
      not only that but why didn't any of those eye witness accounts speak of blow back form those same engines?
      Does it really suprise anyone that the news agencies were reporting this..it's the truth.
       

      I hate to tell you this, but 757's only have two (2) Rolls Royce engines. Trust me....we build 'em here in Seattle.

      morristmorris
       

      As an Englishman who has lived in different parts of the world for the past 40 years let me say that the US has "fought" many wars since world war 2. Always though against poor nations with little in the way of defence. If the Pentagon has Iran in its sights which I am sure it has then be prepared for a real war. Don't forget China is a close friend of this nation.

      An expedition of this nature will cost the US dearly. Don't forget also that the day will come when the rest of the world-which the US treats merely as a resource- will tire of funding your massive current account deficits. In other words the rest of the world will stop lending you money to fight the rest of the world. Never has the US been so unpopular and this will accelerate in the future.

      Maybe it's time to wake up??
       

      http://www.rense.com/general31/CONFIRM.htm

      http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

      I swear if it wasn't for nuts half of these sites would be closed. If you look athe links from the amazing Jeff Rense site you would see the pictures from inside the pentagon that show the wreckage.

      So the journalist was a crappy reporter and jumped the gun. OMFG there is a conspiracy.

      The only conspiracy is the ignorance of the american public towards the lousy reputation your country has on the world stage.

      Quit supporting terror against middle eastern countries and I will bet people will start ignoring you all again.

      That would be a start

      Jeff
       

      I am willing to believe that the plane didn't hit the pentagon.

      So, what are alternative theories as to what made the pentagon collapse?

      What proof or evidence is there of those theories?

      Please note: "Proof" is not something to the effect that "The Bush war machine needed an excuse to invade Iraq." While that might be true, it isn't evidence.

      Proof or evidence would be things like witnesses seeing something else crash into the building, an explosion occuring from inside the building at a time or place inconsistent with the plane crash, something along those lines.

      Besides, I think that, to anyone wanting a war, the planes crashing into that WTC was enough of an excuse without faking a plane crash into the pentagon.

      NOTE TO HENNY: While you may have the raw "talent" to be a presidential speach writer, your mechanics are extremly poor. I suggest learning to at least write at a 6th grade level before applying for the job.
       

      This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
       

      Still waiting for a comment from the writer of this misinformation.

      Anyone looking at my second link shown in my 1st comment post can see for themselves that a plane DID fly into the pentagon.

      Time to anty up conspiracy boy.

      Jeff
       

      It was a remotely controlled Predator Drone which fired a missle just prior to hitting the Pentagon. The bigger question is where are the people on the plane that "supposedly" hit the building? Since there was obviously no airliner, where did they go?
       

      Still waiting for a comment from the writerTry jamie.mcintyre@turner.com
       

      bulldog said: "In other words the rest of the world will stop lending you money to fight the rest of the world."

      AMEN! You said a mouthful there! I can't believe that no one in the US government has thought of that. My only question is how long is this going to take? The sooner the better. Maybe we can stop the insanity if the rest of the world stops the cashflow.
       

      It was obvious the day it happened that no plane hit the pentagon. It was a missile - fired from where? That remains the new JFK of the 21st century along with the fact that the entire WTC fiasco was a controlled demolition. Just a shame all those people had to be in the way.

      With religions as with governments, people get the form that they deserve if they refuse to do anything about it.

      They say if you don't vote, you can't complain. To that I ask, when did the first amendment become contingent upon my support or acceptance of organized crime?

      911 was an inside job.
       

      The pentagon was not hit by an airliner. It had to be a missile--damage is not consistent with an airliner, nor is the residue...the one piece that is supposedly from an airliner does not line up with the paint job.

      The WTC was a controlled demolition. The laws of physics did NOT get suspended on 911. Yes, an inside job.

      The airliner that went down in PA had pieces found many miles away. On a low-wind day. It was shot down.

      Airliners have destinations programmed into their system. There is no way that all 4 airliners had equipment malfunctions. And only one black box recovered...amazing.
       

      Don't get caught up in debates concerning how many engines an airliner has, please. The only conclusion consistent with all the evidence is that a missile struck the Pentagon on September 11. I also agree that the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania seems to have been shot down and that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by demolition charges. My first thought, amidst the horror and disbelief of that morning, was that this had to be an operation conducted by a major military or intelligence organization. No band of third world terrorists, no matter how well funded, could pull off such a complicated operation. My best guess is that the airliners were piolted by remote control. It would be very difficult for even a trained airliner pilot to hit those towers at those speeds. I don't think it was a co-incidence that the only airliner that was shot down was the one slated for the White House. But who knows the real truth? The airliner that was shot down has always been the one aspect of this that has never made any sense to me. I think the airliners are the key to this. Also, I think the number of people reported to have died in the World Trade Center towers is way too low. It went from a possible 10,000-20,000 to a mere 3,000 too quickly. I think it more likely that 6,000-9,000 American citizens were murdered that morning. But that would have created a much different attitude in this country. We would have truly wanted an eye for an eye then. So what is the motivation for all this? Money, oil, opium and power, the same old story. Follow the money, as always. I'm just one guy. I hope one person starts asking questions and thinking because of my comments and the other comments here but always think for yourself. The government would love to do your thinking for you and media are uninformed and complacent. Investigate for yourself. I don't have any answers here, only guesses.
       

      "Look at the pictures they are proof that a 757 hit the pentagon, now where is your proof that a missle hit?"

      OK, Jeff, I have seen the pictures and what in those pictures has convinced you that a 757 hit the pentagon? You talk a lot but you have no idea what you are talking about. You need to employ that little tiny bit of logic that you may or may not have to swallow the facts and then digest them into plausible ideas. It's called brain function. So, in that "plane" wreckage there is a hole that wouldn't allow the size of a 757 jetliner, very few parts that are 1/4th the size of 757 parts and no tail section, wings etc. So, why is it obvious that a plane crashed there?
       

      I will attempt to comment further, but due to the censorship seen here I believe I may be unable to.

      Talk about irony when the conspiracy site chooses to remove freedom of speech.

      The simple truth is that things that are made of metal (like a pop can for example) crush into a smaller space under pressure (especially when they are hollow like a plane/can/vehicle).

      Obviously the wall was able to crush the plane into the smaller size hole with a greater force than the plane was able to open the wall.

      There was a tug of war and the plane lost.

      As far as the wings go, they are attached to the main frame of the plane and as the plane collapsed in upon itself it pulled the wings through the hole and into the void inside of the plane.

      This is because the wings were unable to push back through the wall with enough force to cause the wall to break away.

      I could explain the physics further, but it would be lost on those more prone to want the conspiracy instead.

      I choose to look at 757 wheels and parts laying inside the pentagon instead.

      OH NO!! Maybe the missle had those parts stashed away inside of it as decoys.

      The real plane is sitting in a bunker in Area 51.

      Jeff
       

      "As far as the wings go, they are attached to the main frame of the plane and as the plane collapsed in upon itself it pulled the wings through the hole and into the void inside of the plane.

      This is because the wings were unable to push back through the wall with enough force to cause the wall to break away."

      I'm not sure if you have ever studied a plane, but that is absolutley impossible. Wings, especialy at the roots, are the most strained part of an airliner. they carry fuel in them, and obviously produce most of the lift for the aircraft. the weight of the fuel, and the lift needed by the wing all change in flight, ALOT. they are stuck on to resist about 1.7 times more force than any other part of the plane, and if the wall cant stop the nose, then there is no way in hell it can stop the wings going through. especialy considering the wings have a smaller forward surface area.. they could penetrate objects easier..
       

      the biggest problem to the witness stories that say they DID see the plane hit, is there was a 30ft long trailer parked in front of the Pentagon, right where the "alleged" plane hit.

      http://investigate911.bravehost.com/trailer.html

      This brings ALL witnesses into question IMHO, cos they should have said...
      (I saw the plane hit a trailer parked in front of the Pentagon)

      The photo (remains)of this trailer was leaked out, and was not availible on any military or FEMA website.


      here is my response to the popular mechanics article...
      http://tinyurl.com/6wfs2

      more on the weblog....
      http://physics911.ca/modules/weblog

      some debris discrepancies on the pentalawn...
      http://77debris.batcave.net/

      Brad
      http://911index.batcave.net
       

      Corrvan the wall didn't stop the nose of the plane it compressed it. The resulting hole gets a little larger as more material passes through it.

      The planes wings are not strong enough to punch through that re-enforced wall without collapsing backwards and being pushed into the plane itself.

      The rest of plane is still passing through the hole making it larger and hiding the original (smaller) wing damage.

      You expect the wings to stay outright after going through a re-enforced wall at 500mph?

      /boggle

      Jeff
       

      yeah hell yeah it matters! i think according to all ive seen is our govt [bush and cronies] did 911! no one else profited.
      bush and company or out of control and baaaaad......
       

      yeah hell yeah it matters! i think according to all ive seen is our govt [bush and cronies] did 911! no one else profited.
      bush and company or out of control and baaaaad......
       

      yeah hell yeah it matters! i think according to all ive seen is our govt [bush and cronies] did 911! no one else profited.
      bush and company or out of control and baaaaad......
       

      Ok, Jeff, you seem to be ignoring fact altogether. You said you saw the plane parts outside of the building. Well, what is to say they are plane parts? I already informed you that the parts, those gears and such, were nearly 1/4th the size of those from the supposed 757. Those parts that they found are also in cruise missiles. Incidentally, cruise missiles also have smaller parts than 757's. The way in which you explained a plane crashing into a building is also incorrect. Look at the tapes of the towers being hit. The wings didn't fold back in on the fuselage like you explained they would. Rather they make a punch-out of the plane. Oh, yeah, and planes don't miraculously disappear when they hit a building. They also don't explode instantly such as a missile would. When you blog back in, I think that we would all appreciate it if you would speak logically and stop trying to play on your wonderful circular logic. Thanks.
       

      It is interesting to me, Jeff, that you did not even read the links you posted to make your argument. The article made the point that the section of fuselage outside the Pentagon was from the front of of the plane near the nose. That part of the plane would not be so undamaged and would not be lying there with the company logo on it if this was an actual piece of wreckage. Also, the lettering was not consistent with the real logo painted on the real airliner. So go ahead and post more links that destroy your argument, please. As to freedom of speech, it is my belief that Jeff and everyone else has the right to make his case and/or call the rest of us conspiracy nuts if he wants. No one is censoring your opinion, Jeff. We just think you are wrong and that you argue with your heart and not your head. None of want to believe the terrible things that we see happening before our eyes. We don't want to think the things we do. But we look at all the evidence, not just the evidence that matches what we want to be true.
       

      Any one who wants to see what happened at the Pentagon go to KarlSshwarz.com Go to articles and click on Pop Goes The Wesale #5
       

      But where is the orginal source to CNN? All I found are links to other links who link back to known links. Sites like infowars.com (http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/cnn_report_no_plane_pentagon.htm) and prisonplanet.com (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2005/250205noplane.htm) deleted this information, and I can't found the source transcript on CNN. So where the real source?
       

      I'm betting that even the Repub's are getting fed up with the Administration's policy. Why? Because all those demos and repubs had a good thing going in Washington for years. They already know that the public will hold Dan Rather and Martha Stewart more accountable than any government official....so in essence they can do no wrong. But Georgie is almost upsetting the "apple cart" of the free ride by waking up the public from their apathy. Americans are falling victim to the same rhetoric used just priot to the Nazi's coming to power. They think they are somehow immune and better than the pre-WW2 Germans...but I frankly think the Europeans see the naivity of the Americans. {"We have an enemy...and the enemy is within.") But the politicians are in a tough spot. If they dish Bush then his admin will label them anti-troops or anti-the war on terror. At some point this will change....when the American public gets fed-up with all the lies. Tyrants know all they have to do to get a group of American's behind them is to do a little dog and pony show on Apple Pie and wave the flag--especially when they say they're there for "your security." I'm waiting and I see the people's attitudes changing over here. However what I'm really waiting for goes further than 911! When will the people wake up and discover that the Feds were only given "small eneumerated powers" and were limited to the "territories"...not the states. When will the people stop VOLUNTEERING, in the form of income tax, to make them more and more powerful? You volunteer money and they wage war with your money. They not only wage war in IRaq but also on their OWN people. {Don't beleive me, then why are 1 in 75 men in prison here?) Incidents like 9-11, the War on Iraq and the many many Wars on Pronouns (e.g. War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror) will NOT stop but will only accelerate. This is the way of all TYRANTS that the founding fathers warned about. When will the people here realize that they should never trade freedom for security? Personally I would hate to think our government would create 911. However the Acts like Patriot Act [Should be called Nationalistic Act] were all in place prior to 911. I think those in power wanted to seize control of an apathetic nation and simply chose to look the other way.
       

      Don't you all remeber the initial reports of a truck bomb having gone off at the Pentagon, the story mutating to an Airplane having hit later?

      A bunker buster missile was fired at the pentagon, it punched through 3 rings of reinforced steel and concrete.

      Either it was the Israelis with or without the knowledge of the Bush Admin or it was the Bush admin (current and previous) with the help of Hawks in the Military.
       

      Hold the presses!
      Do you honestly think that Jamie McIntyre (CNN) would put out a report contradicting all of the other reports being flung out by the media and the authorities of a plane having hit the Pentagon? I don't think so! To me it is perfectly clear that his report fits the establishment version to a tee.

      Early news reports on Sept11 had plane(s)not only crashing into the Pentagon, but also somewhere on the lawn in front of it, as well as bouncing off the helipad into the structure. McIntyre attempts to clear things up.He states that the only crash site was the actual side of the building that was crashed in.The lack of any large pieces of plane debris anywhere around indicated to him that the "entire plane" crashed into the side of the Pentagon , and then caused the side to collapse.

      It couldn't be any plainer that this is what he was trying to convey. Listen to the recording again - but this time with this second view in mind, and it will quickly become apparent.

      The case for no plane having hit the Pentagon must be based on irrefutable facts and a certain degree of logic. The CNN report certainly doesn't fit the bill.
      As I see it, McIntyre believes that a plane struck the side of the Pentagon and disappeared therein. The internet, however, is abuzz with reports that he stated the opposite.
      Which is it? What did Jamie McIntyre really report that fateful morning?


      Will
       

      I thought I'd add a couple observations from what I've gathered with the years. I'd like to point out that this is only one small part of the entire 9/11 conspiracy with holes in it for our apprieciation. I recall some video footage that may or may not exist on the Internet anymore that showed an F-16 fighter jet shooting a missle at the side of the Pentegon taken from a survelance camara nearby. There was also a camara at a nearby gas station that had its footage confiscated by the FBI and since dissappeared. One striking piece of evidence that supports a coverup is what they did with the lawn of the Pentegon right after the alleged plane crash. It was still a perfectly good grass lawn 5 minutes after the catastrophy and it seems the very first thing rescue workers do is cover this lawn over with dirt and gravel. Is that just to make the site look more like a passenger jet crash and not a missle? Its also conspiquous that this very difficult to believe amature plane stunt was able to hit this building with perfect precision, but of all 5 sides to choose in their attack on America, they mercifully choose the side that was under costruction and had been evacuated long before while the renovation takes place. The main point I feel like making is that it really doesn't matter if a plane hit this building or not. I feel I'm being distracted from many other glaring facts poking holes in the official 9/11 Richstag fire.
       

      I'm still waiting to see how Bush profits from all this. How much oil have we gotten from Irag? None!
      Oh, let me guess, the evil empire Halliburton has gotten contracts. Take a look at who the top defence contractors are, Halliburton is not one of them. (My company is #2 right behing lockheed martin) I believe in conspiracies, but not this one. I'm sure there has been things covered up about the 9/11 attacks. That day 2 f-16's scrambled and broke the sound barrier right over my house (which is illegal) after the FAA grounded all the planes. The PA flight was probably shot down. ( Convenient empty field) But, I do think it was a terrorist attack by fanatic muslims. I'm sure it will be used by the gov to empower itself ( in the name of security of course ) and remove rights and liberties from people. But don't blame Bush for what is an agenda built into the establishment for long before he was born. It all adds up to us handing over soverignty (spelled right?) to the U.N. Also, people who want to attack us because of our poor international dealings are foreigners who are desperately jeolous of our wealth and power and want to do anything to weaken us. Sadly, many Americans have bought into this nonsense. We are the world's superpower because we deserve to be. We have sacrificed, fought, and liberated. Don't let some Eurotrash socialists make you feel bad and sell you some conspiracy about our president. God bless America
       

      This post has been removed by a blog administrator.
       

      To the guy (Jeff) that said that the wings collapsed and went in through the whole... you need to stop watching loony tunes you idiot. The wings (not made of rubber)are strong enough to carry the entire load of the plane. You HAVE to be an IDIOT to believe the just conveniently collapsed in and went through the whole... have you been listening to too much Bill O'Reily?

      The more I study this, the more sick to my stomach I feel. I cannot tell you the pain I feel of discovering that Bush and his satanic disciples inflicted 911 on his own, yes his own people for supremacy gains.

      Watch out Bush, you'll need to keep looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life. How do you sleep at night?

      In summary, WTC 1, 2, & 7 were controlled explosions. All the evidence points that way.

      This was all orchastrated, with compliance with the Saudi's. WTF the Saudi's dont care if US invades Iraq. Remember Kuwait? THEY HATE SADDAM TOO!! Is it becoming clearer now.

      So in order to create a divide of the haves and have nots, America staged another Pearl Harbour. The ONLY way to get the public's backing to go to war.

      If we all dont group together and bring this BASTARD to justice we risk leaving this world damaged by a psycho.

      Its time for the ANTI BUSH REVOLUTION..... NOW!!
       

      god has his own ways for every thing that he does.may the grace of god be with all who have lost their love ones' in 9/11 and pray for the people who have done it that lord may forgive them and ............really it does'nt make any difference ddoes it .
       

      It can be explained like this: plane flying 450 mph will outrun the shutterspeed of any surveilence camera, the speed will explain the vaporization of the aircraft when you add 20,000 gal. of fuel. What about the dead people and the BuNo(registration-manufactor number) I believe a lot of stuff is covered up by our gov. I have 35 years eployment with them. But people--this ain't one of them
       

      Our president, and most who came before him were all ANTI-CHRISTS, BUT THEY FAILED AT THIER MISSION, THIS ONE DOES NOT PLAN TO FAIL. WORLD DESTRUCTION IS HIS MISSION AND HE WILL SUCCEED. WETHER WE FIGHT OR NOT,THE DAYS ARE UPON US. ALL WE CAN DO IS TRUST IN GOD AND PRAY FOR ALL. WHEN THE TIME COMES DOWN TO YOUR LIFE AND YOU ARE ASKED, "WILL YOU DIE FOR HIM"? I WILL BE ONE THAT SAYS, "YES, I WILL DIE FOR JESUS CHRIST AND NOT LIVE TO SERVE THE DEVIL"!
      I DON'T KNOW IF A PLANE HIT THAT BUILDING OR NOT, BUT I KNOW LIES HAVE BEEN TOLD FROM THE BEGINING AND THEY ARE STILL BEING TOLD!
       

      You say no plane hit the Pentagon.

      If no plane hit the Pentagon, then what happened to the plane and all these missing people that were supposed to be on the plane?
       

      I dont know how old this post is... well, 9/11 was almost 6 years ago. But my husband and I have been doing a lot of research on this issue and we both have come to the conclusion that most everything that happened that day is just an American government scam. The last post asked "where is the plane with all those missing people then?" Well thats the big question isnt it? It was surely NOT at the Pentagon..so where was it then? My father, who has spent his entire career in the demolition field and also helped ferry dead bodies from NYC for proper disposal has even said there is no way those buildings fell into their own footprints without bottom floor internal expolosives. The government is scamming us and those who know and feel it are called things such as crazy, hallicinating, wack jobs. But why? There are several groups of people who are now making this issue the basis of there lives because they have lost people in the tragedy and know(based on the evidence over the last 6 years that has come out)that this was not the work of terrorists. Remember the saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". President Bush, and his entire administration should be brought down, tried and hung for high treason. Here is 1 small interesting fact.. there was several million more dollars spent on investigating President Clintons escapade in the white house than was spent in the investigation of 9/11. Does that make any sense? Dont you think the United States would be more concerned with getting to the bottom of the 9/11 tragedy(which is still causing the loss of hundreds of lives in Iraq)rather than spending millions on a President that got a lil some in the Oval Office? Conspiracy? I think not. President Bush was in my home city reading to some elementary school children that day down the road from me. That day I knew nothing would happen in my general area...why? because his administration was behind it all. The only evil Osama was involved with in the 9/11 conspiracy was getting Bush elected for a 2nd term. We have been told we can nuke a basketball off of a main street in Russia but we cant find someone(trained by our very own CIA)in Tora Bora mountains? We couldnt find weapons of mass destruction because there were none.. we cant prosecute bin Laden if we did nab him because it was not his mission. We can hang a man because of the deaths he caused over the years on his own land but yet the very land we stand on and call our own.. we are letting a group of 'politicians' cause the deaths of many hundreds of our own. Its called practice what you preach, something most of us were raised with from small children. Greed will get you nothing in the end. Thank God there is less than2 years of that administration left and hopefully the American people will be smart enough to make the right election (without the convenient miscount of votes). I am neither democrat nor republican.. but I must say that I am leaning more toward the democratic side everyday. It seems all republicans want to do is take over the world at everyone elses expense. The one with the most toys does NOT always win in the end.
       

      Ooh.. I supposed I really wasnt paying attention to usernames on here and do not want Krisnjeff to be confused with the 'jeff' that has labeled us observers with the name 'conspiracy nut'. Thanks all, God bless and goodnight.
       

      Who cares 911 is long gone, it does make you wonder how come no plane footage at the pentagon when in NYC tons of people video taped the twin towers. Don't tourist video tape the pentagon?? The war on terror is far from over. And why isn't bin laden caught? we know where he is....that guy can't be that clever!
       

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